Monday, September 14, 2009

You Sir are French Kissing Heresy

This quote has been popping into my head all day making me laugh to myself (and making everyone else think that I've completely lost it since I appear to be chuckling for no good reason. Maybe it's because I'm exhausted. I've been barely able to stay awake past 7:00pm each night... Anyways, for whatever reason the exhaustion is making me a little loopy and here's the quote that's on replay in my mind.

"You Sir are french kissing heresy!"

It was typed by my husband on CAF the week that I first started going on the forums. I had asked him to help me when I was responding to a really educated protestant who was arguing against infant baptism and the next thing I know he's saying "I hope you don't get in trouble for that..." I was so nervous to reply to anything when I first joined. Wow, has that changed!

I just discovered another great post on a great blog: The Catholic Knight. He suggests different names for people who are often called "liberal" and "conservative" Catholics. If you head over to his sight I would also strongly recommend reading his posts on headcovering. I discovered his blog when I was searching for more information before I started covering my head for Mass and it really gave me the courage to go out and get a chapel veil and to start wearing it.


Orthodox And Heterodox Catholicism

THE CATHOLIC KNIGHT: I have decided to make this announcement, and I am asking all Catholics in the blogosphere to chime in and possibly help make this a new trend.

No longer will The Catholic Knight use the terms "liberal" and "conservative" in reference to how Catholics practice their religion. For some time now, I've been using the term "orthodox" (small "o") to describe Catholics with a proper approach to faith, morality and practice that is consistent with historic Church Tradition. However, I have been at a loss for how to refer to Catholics who do not have a proper approach to faith, morality and practice that is consistent with historic Church Tradition.

Recognizing that there is no such thing as "conservative" and "liberal" in Catholicism; there can be only those who are authentically Catholic and those who are not. I'm not speaking of those with occasional moral failings here, or occasional lapses of faith, but those who insist on calling themselves Catholic yet openly rebel against the historic teachings of the Church. In ages past the term "heretic" was applied to the latter. While this term may be technically accurate, it has been used so much in the pejorative, creating such visceral reactions, that it becomes extremely impractical to use it in regular conversation and writing practices.

Therefore from now on The Catholic Knight will use the slightly less inflammatory root word "heterodox" to describe those Catholics who do not have a proper approach to faith, morality and practice that is consistent with historic Church Tradition.

I think the term "orthodox Catholic" is far more descriptive of those who keep the faith. While the term "heterodox Catholic" is likewise just as descriptive of those who do not keep the faith, yet insist on calling themselves Catholic anyway. One could argue that the use of heterodox in conjunction with Catholic is an oxymoron. I would agree, but so is the use of the term liberal or cafeteria.

Full Article Here

Now I am going to give in to the exhaustion and get some sleep. I actually made it to 9pm tonight!


  1. Yup, I follow his blog, too, so I saw this last week. I agree with him 100%, and I'm definitely going to make it my norm.

    Off topic, how are you all doing? I know you were all sick. Hope you're feeling better, especially Sadie.

  2. Hi Brooke,

    We're all doing a lot better! Thanks for asking! Whatever flu everyone had only lasted for about three days and when they put Sadie on antibiotics for the ear infection she started feeling better fast. We do think she'd pulled a muscle in her knee too, but little muscles heal so fast that she went from unable to walk to running around by the next morning. It was such a relief, because when I talked to the doctor I was so worried I burst into tears! We're so thankful for all of the prayers!

  3. I come from a protestant background and rather regret that we don’t have the same tradition of headcovering. There’s something about the humility of being veiled which is appealing.
    Pleased to hear all is well.

  4. I like Catholic Knight, as well. Good entry. And I love the "visual," shall we say, about french kissing heresy! Ew!



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